--===============2063187822== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-589831275-1248880008=:99456" --0-589831275-1248880008=:99456 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David,=20 Regarding Ted Knott's '98 #'s...his original post to the listserve was 1/7/= 01. You can probably find it in the archives. He notes that he sold the ori= ginal rod but miced it on 6" centers, subtracted .005 for varnish then stif= fened the tip moderately to handle nymphing and later John Long converted t= he taper to 5" centers. So, while probably a fine rod it's no longer a Payn= e 98 taper. =A0 Ron Barch's taper came (I believe) from Richard Tyree who gave me the same = set of numbers in 1995 from and unvarnished rod. George Mauer provided almo= st the exact same #'s from an unvarnished rod except 30" =3D .148 vs. .147,= 35" =3D .160 vs. .159, 40" =3D .174 vs. .171(the .171 becomes .174 at 42" = at the ferrule on Ron's #'s), 45" =3D .192 vs. .194....Ron calls for an 11/= 64th ferrule and Richard Tyree calls for a 12/64th. Depends on whether you = use the .174 tip or .190 butt to determine ferrule size. (a Step-down works= well here) If I were making it I'd use Ron's numbers. The Payne catalogs I have all li= st the 98 as a fast DF-5wt. The Payne catalogs define a fast action rod as = one that has..."=A0A relatively stiff butt concentrates the action=A0in the= upper part of the rod giving a hard, brilliant fast action". The catalogs = list only three fast action two piece rods . The 98, as a 7' fast 5wt, the = 101 as a 7'6" fast=A05 wt. and the 103 as a fast 8', 6wt. The action on all= three should be similar so the 98 should look like a shorter version of th= e 101. =A0 Best Fishes, =A0 Dennis --0-589831275-1248880008=:99456 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

David,

Regarding Ted Knott's '98 #'s...his original post to= the listserve was 1/7/01. You can probably find it in the archives. He not= es that he sold the original rod but miced it on 6" centers, subtracted .00= 5 for varnish then stiffened the tip moderately to handle nymphing = and later John Long converted the taper to 5" centers. So, while p= robably a fine rod it's no longer a Payne 98 taper.

Ron Barch's taper came (I believe) from Richard Tyre= e who gave me the same set of numbers in 1995 from and unvarnished rod. Geo= rge Mauer provided almost the exact same #'s from an unvarnished rod except= 30" =3D .148 vs. .147, 35" =3D .160 vs. .159, 40" =3D .174 vs. .171(the .1= 71 becomes .174 at 42" at the ferrule on Ron's #'s), 45" =3D .192 vs. .194.= ...Ron calls for an 11/64th ferrule and Richard Tyree calls for a 12/64th. = Depends on whether you use the .174 tip or .190 butt to determine ferrule s= ize. (a Step-down works well here)

If I were making it I'd use Ron's numbers. The Payne= catalogs I have all list the 98 as a fast DF-5wt. The Payne catalog= s define a fast action rod as one that has..." A relatively stiff butt= concentrates the action in the upper part of the rod giving a hard, b= rilliant fast action". The catalogs list only three fast action two piece r= ods . The 98, as a 7' fast 5wt, the 101 as a 7'6" fast 5 wt. and the 1= 03 as a fast 8', 6wt. The action on all three should be similar so the 98 s= hould look like a shorter version of the 101.

Best Fishes,

Dennis

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