Re 19th century tapers possibly 1890s Chubb Montague trade rod - Paul Franklyn

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Okay, for those who store tapers or are curious, I've measured three, =
possibly from 19th century. The quality of the cane work is not high by =
our present standards, which explains to me why some of you praise =
Garrison for his taper advancements. I got interested in this aspect of =
the hobby after reading Jeff Hatton, then A.J. Campbell, then Mike =
Sinclair, which makes me a newbie to appraisal, with suspicious =
opinions.

1. The first unmarked split bamboo rod, with Chubb/Montague hardware, =
appears to be from the 1890s. It came highly tarnished with a tiny =
Montague Climax nickel-plated raised pillar drum reel, with July 3, 1894 =
patent, that perhaps had not been removed from the reel seat for 100 =
years. I paid only $26 for the combo, so what the heck, I polished the =
hardware to look shiny. I made 4 floppy ring guides to "restore it. =
Measured in 5" increments: 36" tip, 35" mid, 37" butt.
0 .098
5 .110
10 .119
15 .146
20 .153
25 .153
30 .158
35. 160
step-down male ferrule (no welt on female), but apparently nickel =
silver, .174 on male slide, 1.875 long male.
40 .200
45 .218
50 .232
55 .258
60 .275
65 .292
70 .295
step down male ferrule (no welt on female), but apparently nickel silver =
 .293 on male slide, 1.875 long male
75 .322
80 .326
85 .340
90 .353
95 .375
100 .390
105 grip 5.5" long and made apparently of cedar wood, spiraled like =
rattan on a lathe, painted black
110
115 reel seat 5", nickel or nickel silver, probably plated over brass, =
sliding band, surely made by Montague
Floppy ring guides (only 7 on this trade rod), brass straps, nickel =
silver rings: spaced from tip at 5.5", 15.25, 27.25, 38.75, 41, 53.75, =
64, wrapped with Chinese red.  Intermediate wraps, start at 4" intervals =
on butt and get closer together progressively from butt to tip, until 2" =
intervals.  Only 1 tip; 1 tip is missing in wooden form case with brass =
end caps.





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  Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:02 AM
  Subject: [RODMAKERS] 19th century tapers


  It's been 99 degrees and too hot in the workshop, too hot for fishing, =
so I am restoring 3 rods inside the house. Rods were probably made in =
the 1880s and 1890s. One is a Dame, Stoddard, and Kendall "Hub" model =
from the 1880s, one is a lancewood rod unmarked but Chubb hardware, and =
one is an unmarked bamboo rod with Chubb hardware. All "trade" rods, =
with ring and strap guides.

  I am taking measurements of the tapers on these rods.  I hesitate to =
post them at the list, since I have not noticed posts on rods this =
ancient, and I have not seen this kind of taper in Hexrod online or the =
taper databases.  I ran the D.S. and K. HUB rod through the Hexrod =
online to see the graphs.

  I can't imagine fishing these tapers, but I will post if there is any =
educational interest in prehistoric tapers.

  Paul Franklyn


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