Re Rod tapers - David
Dear Richard
Thanks again! These Heddons remind me of the rod I had as a boy (before the
world was divided according to the style of hat you wore) when we had such
things as "all-around" fishermen. In fact, I'm going to take your advice
and start looking for an offset handle.
Davy
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Date: Sunday, September 27, 1998 3:01 PM
Subject: Rod tapers
>List: Some time ago there was interest in spin rod and casting rod tapers
>("casting rod" meaning with use of revolving spool, multiplying reels). I
>posted some spin rod tapers, and here are those for casting rods. Like
>flyrods, casting rods also have individual actions. Some fast with minimum
>height of trajector (tight loop analogy), some slow which are lobbers (wide
>loop). And like flyrods, they can benefit from small tip tops, though it
is
>difficult to find older rods with less than # 6. Most numbers are on
5-in.
>centers. Where not, please interpolate or plot on graph paper/screen. As
in
>flycasting, using these bamboo rods with proper reels and lines, there is
>pleasure is in the casting. These tapers are as found. 2-pc rods can be
made
>as 1-pc and visa-versa. And of course, they can be manipulated for slight
>differences in action.
>
>1) Heddon # 850 : 6"-0", 1-pc for 3/8 to 1/2 oz lures. Medium speed rod.
I
>think this was also called "The Bill Stanley Favorite", but not sure.
>Considered a "tournament" rod. A good long distance rod for fishing.
> 0-110; 5-120; 10-130; 15-144; 20-162; 25-182; 30-198; 35-208;
>40-228; 50-240; 55-274; 55 Swell begins; 60-430; 62-468; 67/72-468.
>
>2) Heddon # 851-L : 5'-6", 1-pc for 3/8 to 5/8 oz lures. This a fairly
fast
>rod. Great all-round casting rod. This is over varnish and suggest -.006"
>correction.
>0-110; 5-124; 10-142; 15 162; 20-178; 25-196; 30-214; 35-232;
40-248;
>45-264; 50-286; 52-296; 52 - swell begins to 390.
>
>3) Hollis Casting Rod : 6'-2" , 2-pc listed as 1/4-oz. to 3/8-oz. lure rod
>but seems to handle 1/2-oz. lures ok. This is about the best of the long
>range rods in my view. Has good feel and accuracy.
>Tip: 0-094; 5-106; 10-126; 15-142; 20-158; 25-174; 30-184; 35-212;
>37-234
>Butt: 37-237; 40-240; 45-252; 50-262; 55-276 begin swell @ 55;
60-386
>end swell.
>
>4) Semi hollow casting rod : 6'-2", 2-pc for 3/8-oz. to 5/8-oz. lures.
This
>rod designed using the Garrison formulas, plugging in the extra wt. for the
5
>carbide guides (4ea # 8 and 1 #10) and substituting a length of fly line
to
>equal 5/8-oz as wt of target lure. Decision was later made to hollow
build,
>perhaps resulting in a lower lure wt. range. Not sure how much stronger it
>would be built solid. Due to small tip top size, it seems to be more
accurat
>than orther rods listed above. However, does not have quite the distance,
>being more comfortable up to 75'. Works very well with older, light,
narrow-
>spooled reels and 6# soft braided nylon line.
>
>Tip: 0-088; 5-090; 10-120; 15-138; 20-158; 25-174; 30-190; 36.5-216
>Butt: # 14 ferrule; 36.5-216; 40-222; 45-238; 50-254; 55-274; 60-290;
>60- begin swell to 450. Guide spacing from tip top: 6 ; 12-1/4 ; 20-1/2
;
>29-7/8 ; 42-1/4.
>
>All of these casting rods can be built with butt ferrules for off-set
casting
>handles. My suggestion is to haunt the flea mkts and or attend NFLCC meets
>and obtain a mechanically good conditioned Heddon off-set handle with a
>collet-type closure on front. You should avoid the other type Heddon that
has
>a screw thru the front of the offset that pulls the rod shaft into the
handle;
>it requires a morse taper ferrule for the shaft. If the ferrule is
avaiable
>that handle would be just fine. FeatherLight casting handles are also very
>good, especially the non-adjustable ones (not so large). The other option
is
>to extend the taper numbers given above and make the rod for a straight
handle
>with the rod shaft extending through the reel seat and handgrip similar to
>flyrods. If you do go with a straight handle, I strongly recommed you
devise
>or purchase some sort of casting trigger. Triggers enhance the casting
feel
>and ability to a great degree and I find straight handle rods without a
>casting trigger difficult.
>
>One additional spinning rod taper.
>
>5) Light Spin rod : 6'-3" for 3/16-oz. to 5/16-oz. lures. This is really
a
>great taper for a spin rod, the same as it is for a fly rod. Check any
number
>of sources, such as Wayne's book and the archives for the # 4 version of
the
>6'-3" rod.
>
>6) Modified the above 6'-3" for 1/4-oz and in casting rod configuration.
>Thought I had it but it is still a bit too weak in the butt section, and
will
>try again soon. Will post it when I get it right.
>
>Hope this helps someone,
>Richard Tyree
>