Payne 197&198 - Dennishigham

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Here are the two Payne tapers....
The 197 is a 7'6", 3 piece, 5wt. These numbers came from Ed Hartzell from an 
unvarnished rod.
tip..0 = .062, 6 = .086, 12 = .106, 18 = .119, 24 = .134, 30 = .152
mid.. 0 = .154, 6 = .170, 12 = .188, 18 = .200, 24 = .208, 30 = .222
butt.. 0= .230, 6=  .245, 12 = .265, 18 = .304, 24 = .350, 30 = .350

The 198 is a 7'6", 6wt in all my old catalogs but a 4 wt in the Planing forum 
#57 that I got these #'s from....I've not built this rod so I have NO 
opinion... but... Ron Barch in the Planing forum said, "Of the many I tried this one 
stood out in the crowd.....The rod was typical Payne, smooth and powerful."
tip 0= .066, 5 = .083, 10 = .098, 15 = .112, 20 = .128, 25 = .141, 30 = .154
mid 0 = .156, 5 = .169, 10 = .181, 15 = .195, 20 = .206, 25 = .218, 30 = .232
butt 0= .234, 5 = .242, 10 = .259, 15 = .279, 20 = .340, 25 = .365, 30 = .365
Guide spacing...tip 4 1/2, 10 3/8, 17 1/2, 25 3/8
mid 2 1/8, 10 1/8, 18 1/2, 26 3/4
butt 5 1/2, 6 1/2 10mm stripper

I have no thoughts about the disparity of line weights in the 198 but maybe 
Hal Bacon will have some ideas when he gets back???

Dennis


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Here are the two Payne ta=
pers....

The 197 is a 7'6", 3 piece, 5wt. These numbers came from Ed Hartzell fro=
m an unvarnished rod.

tip..0 =3D .062, 6 =3D .086, 12 =3D .106, 18 =3D .119, 24 =3D .134, 30=20=
=3D .152

mid.. 0 =3D .154, 6 =3D .170, 12 =3D .188, 18 =3D .200, 24 =3D .208, 30=20=
=3D .222

butt.. 0=3D .230, 6=3D  .245, 12 =3D .265, 18 =3D .304, 24 =3D .350=
, 30 =3D .350



The 198 is a 7'6", 6wt in all my old catalogs but a 4 wt in the Planing=20=
forum #57 that I got these #'s from....I've not built this rod so I have NO=20=
opinion... but... Ron Barch in the Planing forum said, "Of the many I tried=20=
this one stood out in the crowd.....The rod was typical Payne, smooth and po=
werful."

tip 0=3D .066, 5 =3D .083, 10 =3D .098, 15 =3D .112, 20 =3D .128, 25=20=
=3D .141, 30 =3D .154

mid 0 =3D .156, 5 =3D .169, 10 =3D .181, 15 =3D .195, 20 =3D .206, 25=20=
=3D .218, 30 =3D .232

butt 0=3D .234, 5 =3D .242, 10 =3D .259, 15 =3D .279, 20 =3D .340, 25=20=
=3D .365, 30 =3D .365

Guide spacing...tip 4 1/2, 10 3/8, 17 1/2, 25 3/8

mid 2 1/8, 10 1/8, 18 1/2, 26 3/4

butt 5 1/2, 6 1/2 10mm stripper



I have no thoughts about the disparity of line weights in the 198 but ma=
ybe Hal Bacon will have some ideas when he gets back???



Dennis



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