Okey Doke.  I did a bit of measuring this AM  these rods are from a friend.
 
The Casting rod has ZERO identifying marks but appears to be of fair quality.

 It has been used a lot.   Any of you who know anything about, I would 
apreceate any information you have.
    As to the other rod, I have an identifying mark JAY  HARVEY under the 
reel seat. opinions here, it is in "fair" shape.  useable, but not pretty. 

should I go to a bunch of trouble and make it nice, or simply clean it up and

give it back as a decoration for my buddy. (it was his grandfathers rod)  Any

idea of the value of this rod or when it was made etc?  just for information

purposes.
I am probably going to restore the Casting rod for him if possible (it looks

nice really!) so tips on this would be helpful as well.
thanks, 
mark
    

Casting Rod
2 piece 84 3/4 overall length
Tip 42 1/4

Tip .11
5   .13
10  .14
15  .16
20  .178
24  .19
30  .2
35  .21 
40  .225
ferrule
45  .23+
50  .24
55  .26
60  .28
65  .29
70  .3
73  .31
 
the grip is  11 3/8 long and is flared at both ends and has a pair of 
aluminum rings to capture the reel foot.  overall quality is pretty nice!  It

does have brass/chrome plate ferrules, but they seem to be fairly nice.

Jay Harvey
  this has a good amount of varnish on it  the casting rod doesn't seem to 
have nearly as much.

Tip 1  38 1/2 inches  tip 2 is the SAME except it is 37 5/8

tip .09
5   .11
10  .12
15  .14
20  .15
25  .17
30  .18
35  .19

mid section measured from the end of the rod 1.12 inches below the tip of the

ferrule.  OL 39 inches

tip (just aft of the ferrule)
tip .2
5   .22
10  .23
15  .255
20  .27
25  .29
30  .3
35  .31

Butt  38 3/4 OL  measured from 1.34 below the ferrule tip.

tip .325
5   .34
10  .35
15  .36
20  .37
23 1/2 the butt starts to swell noticably!
25  .435
27  .49
note 1/2 back the butt measures .5 under silk wraps.
"Piscator non solum Piscatur" 

"Piscator non solum Piscatur"